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The Fall 2014 Anime Preview Guide- CROSS ANGE

Does the truth hurt? She is a racist. Simple fact.

No I mean the fact that "The bitch had it coming" is an actual argument used in favor of people who defend rape and your lack of awareness of it being a terrible thing to say even about a fictional character fills me with a deep sadness.

Fipse wrote:

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This is probably the worst possible thing anyone could have said in this thread.

EDIT: Hell I'm not even going to repeat it

fnord wrote:

What's the point?

The point is to give a preview of the first episode of the show so that potential viewers can decide whether it's worth their time to watch it themselves.

Her brother immediately seizes the throne and makes his other very little sister his queen with the intent on producing multiple heirs as soon as possible. (He traces a finger over her lips and fantasizes about it while she's unconscious.)

But because the content is horrible and misogynist, and in this case worse than pretty much any anime in recent memory, it always always always reveals to me the horrible misogyny in person after person that rides in to defend it. That's not fiction anymore. It's reality.

Reading these reviews fills me with a sense of bizarre amazement. Amusement, too.

Contrary to the other contributors in this thread I will not debate the actual content of Cross Ange and whether or not it's misogynist. In my opinion it clearly is, regardless of what was and wasn't rape. I'm also not going to talk about whether Ange adequately tackles touchy subjects like discrimination. I will, however, add that I don't consider this torture porn, simply because actual torture porn is much more drastic. Have any of the reviewers seen movies like Hostel? Evidently not, and so they should refrain from using established terminology.

Instead I would like to say that these reviewers have the wrong hobby and/or job, depending on how much time they devote to ANN reviews. Applying Western concepts of gender equality to anime is incredibly pointless. The Japanese will not care. They will not stop making anime like this just because some social justice warriors in the West are waving the war flag.

You're not the primary audience of this show. You're just people who, for a fee, are permitted to watch it. If the reviewers dislike watching sexist content, then the only smart course of action would be to cease watching anime, because most anime for a male audience is sexist to one degree or another.

Likewise, expecting the Japanese to have a fair and balanced opinion on discrimination when the country has never come to grips with its own past or dealt with discrimination issues rampant in its contemporary society is completely absurd. Cross Ange will not treat the subject of "subhumans" with dignity. Having the expectation that it would or might is a pipe dream, especially when the country is slowly moving towards the right.

Ultimately this boils down to whether it makes sense to apply Western standards to something that isn't Western. I think it's a waste of time. You can take Cross Ange for what it is and see if you can look past the aspects that you dislike to find something you do, or you can ignore it for lack of compatibility.

Writing yourself into a rage lambasting it is utterly fruitless.

Ange had it coming. She is a racist bitch who tells a mother that her child is a monster and has to get rid of it. You are not supposed to feel pity for her during the torture (it is no rape). You are supposed to hate her.

Couldn't we have just drawn the line at having her kingdom and her mother being stripped from her right in front of her eyes?

And while people in the West aren't the primary audience for anime, they are a large secondary market with some influence, or did you miss the whole recent thing with Space Dandy having its WORLD premiere be on US TV?

Couldn't we have just drawn the line at having her kingdom and her mother being stripped from her right in front of her eyes?