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NEWS: Kimagure Orange Road Kickstarter Funds 2nd Omnibus Volume


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Ali07



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:00 am Reply with quote
Over half way there! I'm setting aside some money in case they reach the final volumes stretch goal, will only pledge if I know I'm getting the whole series.
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trunkschan90



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:35 am Reply with quote
We're almost there guys. If Skip Beat can succeed so can Kimagure Orangue Road.
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smokeyjoey8



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:38 am Reply with quote
Ali07 wrote:
Over half way there! I'm setting aside some money in case they reach the final volumes stretch goal, will only pledge if I know I'm getting the whole series.


I'm worried that there are A LOT of people that think the same way, which could end up being what will prevent the stretch goals from being reached. Hopefully I'm wrong.

They do seem to be on pace to reach every goal, though. So that's a good sign.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:51 am Reply with quote
I'm hoping that now that v2 has been reached, a bunch of people will add it on, therefore easily making it to stretch goal for v3, wherein the same thing will happen and so on until the whole series is gotten. Right now, only the super high tiers have it automatically added on, but I'm guessing that's not most people. Looking through, we'll assume that the people who did both the $1 pledge probably won't add on just v2 and that the people who have the pledges high enough to have them automatically won't need to, but that's 38 out of 603 people (currently), and that 72 people who signed on for eBook 1 might do eBook 2 (sure to be a cheaper add on), at least 450 people might be adding on book 2, which will get to book 3 really damn fast at that pace.

I was personally waiting until at least v2 was unlocked, then I can just pledge for both and increase it later on and so on and so forth. I'll need to wait for DMP's update on how to add the pledge before pledging, but that should be sometime tomorrow I would imagine. I'd expect that they may also add a new tier just for v1-2 or something.

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Ok, so now that the stretch goal prices are up, I have one major issue with this. It costs $30 to add a print volume, but the MSRP on the said volume is $25... that doesn't seem like a very good deal to me...
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:38 pm Reply with quote
FYI, it's up to $61,000 as of this moment.
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Ali07



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:46 pm Reply with quote
smokeyjoey8 wrote:
Ali07 wrote:
Over half way there! I'm setting aside some money in case they reach the final volumes stretch goal, will only pledge if I know I'm getting the whole series.


I'm worried that there are A LOT of people that think the same way, which could end up being what will prevent the stretch goals from being reached. Hopefully I'm wrong.

They do seem to be on pace to reach every goal, though. So that's a good sign.

Personally, if they were to turn around and say that something else will be done in order to get the whole series in print (even if it is another KS down the line), I'd be willing to part with my money.

Sticking point with me will always be an incomplete series. If they're not able to give me the whole series, and there's nothing said about completing it, I won't be backing. I don't want an incomplete series that, seemingly, won't be completed in print.

They do say this:
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If there is enough demand for it in the following months, considerations will be made for future campaigns to finish the series.

Thing I don't like about it is...how will this be judged? They won't have many copies to sell post-KS, and I don't know if the digital manga is held to the same restrictions as the print. Meaning, that if only 2 volumes of the print manga are funded, they'll only be doing 2 volumes of the digital re-release.

To me, it looks to be the case. Judging on the images of the tiers, the ones that include all the other volumes in the tier do say "Locked - Digital and Print Edition". I see that as indicating that they are held to the same restrictions.

So, as they will release an incomplete product, I do wonder if there will be enough interest in a digital product that is incomplete. I'm not sure if there would be many KOR fans willing to buy Digital's incomplete digital version, because it could lead to them doing another KS to fund the rest of the series.

And what makes things seem worse, to me, is that there is already a complete digital release for the series.

classicalzawa wrote:
Ok, so now that the stretch goal prices are up, I have one major issue with this. It costs $30 to add a print volume, but the MSRP on the said volume is $25... that doesn't seem like a very good deal to me...

That is an issue, but something that I'd be willing to overlook. They've already said that they won't have many copies to sell post-KS.

There will be extras printed, but they could get eaten up by the KS if there are damaged copies etc. Seems like the extra printed will be very little, making that MSRP (to me) seem meaningless.

This is what was said about extra copies, and these (I assume) would be sold at or near MSRP:
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The print copies will be printed, enough just to fill Backer pledges, and possibly 1-2% extra over run to cover lost orders, damages, and any other unexpected need for replacement copies, etc.
Any excess inventory will eventually be sold at our online retail, akadot.com, but at a much later date...and probably no where else...so it may be a gamble to wait, as chances are you may be able to get some of the volumes, or none at all...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:09 pm Reply with quote
classicalzawa wrote:

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Ok, so now that the stretch goal prices are up, I have one major issue with this. It costs $30 to add a print volume, but the MSRP on the said volume is $25... that doesn't seem like a very good deal to me...


Yeah, I don't know if they're planning to stagger shipments or send out everything at once since their time frames on the site point to everything being released fairly close together, but you'd think they'd start lowering the price the more volumes you order. At least if they give the option to have all 6 shipped together.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:53 am Reply with quote
classicalzawa wrote:
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I have one major issue with this. It costs $30 to add a print volume, but the MSRP on the said volume is $25... that doesn't seem like a very good deal to me...


I'm guessing, but I'm fairly sure that the extra $5 is for shipping. You will note that all merchandise comes with free US shipping. Compare this to the Skip Beat kickstarter where they automatically added an additional $10 to my pledge to cover shipping and handling. Either way is fine, someone has to pay the post office, the main difference is that the Skip Beat people explained what they were doing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:54 pm Reply with quote
Although it is an interesting project to be funding, it is pretty hard on the wallets for us international investors. 30 USD and an additional 15 USD for each volume shipping if you want the physical editions adds up. 270 USD for six omnibuses gets pretty steep, and that is outside of any extras you might want. I would gladly fund this project, but with the exchange rates here in Canada as well as customs fees on the books, a full series will be running people up here in America's hat nearly 360 CDN. A little rich for my blood. Yet another factor which might be scaring away investors, outside lf the obvious potential lack of completion of the series. I hope that it does turn out well for them. 18 days to go, I believe.
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Ali07



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:23 pm Reply with quote
Gustave Archamp wrote:
30 USD and an additional 15 USD for each volume shipping

For me, in Australia, I'd paying $30USD for shipping. And that was for the tier that is only for the first volume.

Guess the only thing that can be said about the price is, the situation with the series is that you're either getting it from the KS or taking the chance that you'll be able to get one of the very few copies they'll sell on their website post-KS.

If they are sticking to their 1-2% extra copies, and you assume that all 607 current backers are getting both volumes, means they'd only have around 10 extra copies of both volumes 1 & 2. And those might not be ones DMP will even get to sell through their website, as that'd be dependent on there being no damaged copies among the ones they have for the backers. So, the number they may have to sell may be even less.

Kinda have people by the short hairs, if you're after the print editions.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:24 pm Reply with quote
Again, unlike other crowdfunders, the author has some bleeped up medical conditions which make even an incomplete printing of the series worthwhile for him. So if you got any family members or friends with crappy back and/or breathing problems [And that latter shit isn't always a result of smoking tobacco, either.], then this is the only time you get to feel like you're able to help someone like them turn their situation around. In other words, you're getting something bigger than a trinket or two in return for supporting this Kickstarter.

Also, you know that older middle-aged mangaka in Bakuman who was trying to make a comeback in Jump, and you felt sorry for him? Matsumoto is basically him. He's been there, too. But unlike what happens to that guy, you can give Matsumoto a happy ending. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:25 am Reply with quote
This is going backwards, 620 backers yesterday, 618 today.
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Ali07



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:38 am Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
Again, unlike other crowdfunders, the author has some bleeped up medical conditions which make even an incomplete printing of the series worthwhile for him. So if you got any family members or friends with crappy back and/or breathing problems [And that latter shit isn't always a result of smoking tobacco, either.], then this is the only time you get to feel like you're able to help someone like them turn their situation around. In other words, you're getting something bigger than a trinket or two in return for supporting this Kickstarter.

Might just be me, but it feels like this is meant to guilt people into putting money into this KS.

Maybe if I was a fan of his work, I wouldn't feel like this comment is one that is to guilt people into supporting this KS. But, since I've no connection to him or his work, that's the way it reads to me.

If I were to help fund his medical bills, I'd rather send him money through something like GoFundMe and receive nothing, rather than back this KS and receive an incomplete series.
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This doesn't like seem like something DMP would be running. That is, since this was a WSJ title, I would think Viz would want to run this campaign. Maybe Viz didn't consider it popular enough to license.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:58 pm Reply with quote
Kadmos1 wrote:
This doesn't like seem like something DMP would be running. That is, since this was a WSJ title, I would think Viz would want to run this campaign. Maybe Viz didn't consider it popular enough to license.


Technically, manga belongs to the original author in Japan, but the publishers they work with tend to assist with things like rights management & licensing. Most mangaka just let their publishers handle all of that stuff normally, but there are a good number of creators who handle licensing themselves. That's how Vertical was able to license Prophecy, which was a relatively recent Jump Square manga, for example; the creator himself went to Vertical & asked them to license it. This is especially true for older manga, so DMP likely got the license for KOR directly from Izumi Matsumoto.
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