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REVIEW: Otoboku Sub.DVD 2




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Pinkwings



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:39 am Reply with quote
Looks like your average moe harem with mouse voices series to me. Theres probably a lunch episode, a festival episode, maybe a pool one, throw in some love triangles, a little lesbian hints here and there, etc..

Oh but we have a guy in a dress?! .......how unique! I never heard of that before!!!! Maybe I will watch it!

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Pass. Only series like that I could stomach was School days. And I watched it for lulz. It was funny as hell. Especially the last episode when he got gutted like a fish.]
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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:25 am Reply with quote
I laugh at the fact that this one has a "Yuri Fan" label. Even I found their some of their yuri-related comedy in this series to be lame.
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JohnnySake



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:42 am Reply with quote
Ouch, I never thought of myself as pathologically masochistic but apparently I must be for having a less than negative feeling about this series so far.

The whole plot of the series of the young male student attending the all girls' school, in drag, should be a immediate tip-off that you should probably not take the storyline too seriously. Yes, at times they seem to go overboard (e.g. the inclusion of a ghost) but I always felt that the deficiencies were offset by the lead male character. He could have taken many low roads, but always took the higher one with how he treated all the girls he interacted with. In my opinion, the girls and their behaviors to one another are shown in a worse light than a cross dressing boy and what he does.

I'm still waiting to see if there really is a final important reason why he was sent there in the first place. (There have been some explanations up to this point.) Yes, it might be a drop of drama in a sea of pointless silliness, but it has been enough to keep me interested in the series so far.
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Furudanuki



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:03 am Reply with quote
Correction:
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The disc's one extra is a forty-minute web radio episode featuring Miyu Matsuki (Shion) and Yuko Goto (Takako).

Yuuko Gotou is the seiyuu for Ichiko (the ghost girl), not Takako (the student council president).
Takako's seiyuu is Chiaki Takahashi.
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Dorcas_Aurelia



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:19 pm Reply with quote
JohnnySake wrote:
Ouch, I never thought of myself as pathologically masochistic but apparently I must be for having a less than negative feeling about this series so far.

You have to take Carl's hatred of moe into account and adjust accordingly. I was hoping one of the other reviewers might have gotten this one, as Carl had the first volume, too.
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Panda Man



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:58 pm Reply with quote
Oh well, I guess I am the only one that likes Otoboku.
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the Rancorous



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:12 pm Reply with quote
You know, I was thinking about Netflixing this one for kicks, but...

Carl wrote:
In Tim Burton's Mars Attacks, listening to Slim Whitman causes Martians' heads to explode in a shower of green goo. Listening to the cast of Otoboku nattering in their heliumized voices with their oh-so kawaii affectations has much the same effect.


Mad this description steers me away as even a harem-sucker such as myself has his limits. Then again, I do remember another one of Carl's reviews suggesting that there is something even remotely entertaining about Happy Lesson, so I'm pretty torn on whether or not to take the plunge with this one...

But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't entertained by Carl's negative moe reviews Razz
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Jaziek



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:25 pm Reply with quote
I youtubed the first couple of episodes, and this is one of those series, that is so terrible its just funny. Like a trainwreck, you just cant look away as it steers itself into every harem stereotype ever conceived, and takes it to a new level of over the top stupidity.

That said, theres some OK fanservice in there too.
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nargun



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:13 pm Reply with quote
Crappy moe fanservice shows are "social relationship" porn for people who have difficulty in getting social relationships happening, in the same way that most H shows are sex porn for people who have difficulty getting sex happening.

I think that ANN should look at not reviewing them any more; there's nothing to review. The characters are ciphers, the plots an excuse for set-piece social-interaction money shots. What more is there to say?
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stevek504



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:29 pm Reply with quote
After Carl's review of the first DVD I had to see it for myself (thanks to Netflix). I didn't think the first DVD was half bad – but this one did go down hill. As was mentioned, it felt like the plot was to have no plot. I will probably end up buying this series. I find myself agreeing with everything JohnnySake said. The actions of our cross-dressing “hero” and the spoiler[addition of the ghost ]make this most un-harem anime I have seen. Maybe it is a reverse harem where all the girls will fall in love with Mizuho. spoiler[I suspect his childhood friend Mariya will win him in the end.] Unless the last DVD takes a real dive, I find the series just funny enough to spend my money on it.

I would put it about the same level as Happy Lesson (though I did not purchase it).

(edit) Oh. I just read the post by nargun and find myself in agreement with the first statment (in general). I don't really look too deep as to why I like or dislike something, but this statement may hit the mark. I do want to see all the reviews continue though.


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Gewürtztraminer



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:58 pm Reply with quote
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Crappy moe fanservice shows are "social relationship" porn for people who have difficulty in getting social relationships happening, in the same way that most H shows are sex porn for people who have difficulty getting sex happening.

I think that ANN should look at not reviewing them any more; there's nothing to review. The characters are ciphers, the plots an excuse for set-piece social-interaction money shots. What more is there to say?


This can apply to most forms of entertainment. I have a friend who is just nuts about bass fishing. You have the actual fishing, along with purchasing all the equipment. But... then you have a series of magazines and shows featuring glossed up "money shots" of double digit largemouths held at arms length to the camera (because then they look bigger).

I call this Bass Porn.

There is certainly Gun Porn, Whitetail Deer Hunting Porn, Car Porn, Super Robot Porn, Investment Porn, Gardening Porn, and yes, moe and harem porn.

Any form of entertainment is most likely looked upon by some segment of others who just can not fathom the attraction or why it was made.

As to Otoboku, I took a chance on the first volume, mainly due to the dirt cheap price and my enjoyment of some of the other recent Media Blaster's sub only releases. Being a completist, I will own and watch it all, but can not guarantee that it will be rewatched unless it improves.
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Skyhawk



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:29 pm Reply with quote
I have watched the complete series multiple times and really enjoyed it. I would recommend waiting until you have watched the complete series before you make your judgment about it. I wouldn't take the reviewers word as he obviously was EXTREMELY biased toward the show long before he wrote the review. It almost seems like he had the review already written before the volume was released and was waiting for it to arrive before he posted it. Just my observation. I will be buying the complete set once all the DVD's are released.
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nargun



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:34 pm Reply with quote
Gewürtztraminer wrote:
This can apply to most forms of entertainment. I have a friend who is just nuts about bass fishing. You have the actual fishing, along with purchasing all the equipment. But... then you have a series of magazines and shows featuring glossed up "money shots" of double digit largemouths held at arms length to the camera (because then they look bigger).

I call this Bass Porn.

There is certainly Gun Porn, Whitetail Deer Hunting Porn, Car Porn, Super Robot Porn, Investment Porn, Gardening Porn, and yes, moe and harem porn.

Any form of entertainment is most likely looked upon by some segment of others who just can not fathom the attraction or why it was made.


No, I can fathom the attraction to shows like this. It's not an attraction I feel, but

It's just that I think they are distinctly and categorically different to the majority of anime, they've abandoned conventional narrative structures in exchange for showcasing their target scenes, and that reviewing them on the same basis is... meaningless, even misleading.

[I also think that there exist shows that fulfil the "moeporn" niche without sacrificing narrative quality [strawberry marshmellow], just like there's sexually-explicit content that aren't narrative messes ["erotica" vs "porn" is not solely about pretension]. But Otoboku doesn't appear to be one of them.]
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Who Is This Guy!?



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:14 pm Reply with quote
Skyhawk wrote:
I have watched the complete series multiple times and really enjoyed it. I would recommend waiting until you have watched the complete series before you make your judgment about it. I wouldn't take the reviewers word as he obviously was EXTREMELY biased toward the show long before he wrote the review. It almost seems like he had the review already written before the volume was released and was waiting for it to arrive before he posted it. Just my observation. I will be buying the complete set once all the DVD's are released.

nargun wrote:
Crappy moe fanservice shows are "social relationship" porn for people who have difficulty in getting social relationships happening, in the same way that most H shows are sex porn for people who have difficulty getting sex happening.

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Think it over
Think it over
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AkiRa 84



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:11 pm Reply with quote
I don't think this is a typical harem anime, mostly because the cross dressing lead is acting too much like a female. So, to me it's more like a MariMite style slice of life. And thats probably why I liked the series. Also, the OP and ED are masterpieces, IMHO.
The review does seem biased...
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